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Post by mupcycledcouture on Jan 21, 2015 23:14:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 0:25:55 GMT
Some of the same info here www.santacruzsentinel.com/business/20150121/ebay-to-lay-off-2400-could-split-into-three-parts
But this quote floored me "The core auction site eBay runs has not recovered from the negative affects of asking all users to reset their passwords last May, Donahoe said, and has also been negatively affected by changes in search engines that have led fewer shoppers to eBay."
I cannot believe he admitted that. So buyers really do want to see what they're actually searching for and not what eBay thinks they need? Who would have thunk it?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 1:12:48 GMT
Interesting.
So much for Donohoe's great plans and confidence. He's pretty much sounding like a defeated man right now. Apparently, the board agrees as one of the articles said that he won't have a position in either ebay or paypal once the split occurs.
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Post by mupcycledcouture on Jan 22, 2015 2:21:36 GMT
He is talking about Google search results, not Ebay's.
He is saying that the Google penalty and the hack is what has caused this mess. HE has had nothing to do with it it all. Nothing to do with the abuse he has handed out to sellers or the fact that he has chased so many sellers (who were buyers) off the site.
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Post by allikat on Jan 22, 2015 2:25:46 GMT
Mup, I thought he was talking about Google search also. I don't think that ebay will ever admit their search is f-ed up so bad that it drives buyers away.
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Post by val2525 on Jan 22, 2015 2:29:07 GMT
“They bought back a lot of shares, they added one of Icahn’s employees to the board, they are cutting costs -- those are the things investors care about more than the actual performance of the company,” said Gil Luria, an analyst at Wedbush Securities Inc., who has the equivalent of a hold rating on the stock.
And this stupid focus on investors is why eBay is loosing CUSTOMERS - which means sellers, and indirectly, buyers. Listening only to Wall Street is the kiss of death for a public company.
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Post by pyrexandpearls on Jan 22, 2015 4:35:18 GMT
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Post by val2525 on Jan 22, 2015 4:47:02 GMT
Icahn is nothing more than what used to be called a Corporate Raider. Heads up folks, if you haven't branched out yet, now is the time to start setting your off-eBay stuff up.
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Post by Desire on Jan 22, 2015 5:43:40 GMT
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Post by Desire on Jan 22, 2015 5:52:14 GMT
CNBC story titled: EBay CFO: It will get worse before it gets better ''During the company's earnings call, eBay Chief Financial Officer Bob Swan said 2015 would present ''real challenges'' and forecast that ''it will get worse before it gets better.'' www.cnbc.com/id/102351093#
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Post by val2525 on Jan 22, 2015 6:41:06 GMT
WTH? More specifically, Donahoe revealed that eBay planned to create its own product catalog, but said it couldn't be done overnight. He compared it to the rebuilding of eBay's search engine (called Cassini) 5 years ago.Dude, you guys ADMITTED that Cassini was a failure. Why not just go back to standard search and stop trying to manipulate what buyers see? Google SEO is most attuned to what retailers have - structured data, Donahoe explained.Gee. I thought Google was more attuned to sites that pay for product placement on Google results. Which eBay refuses to do.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 14:07:28 GMT
I was on Bonanza when the changes were made at Google, so that was, what, a little over two years ago? If that's where he's pointing his finger then what does that say about him that eBay hasn't found a way to recover from that in two years? How about focusing on his own in house search? Maybe that would have helped more than continuing to bemoan what is in the past.
He will always find something or someone else to blame, but I have never purchased anything on eBay that I've found through Google. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but in our category especially, who is Googling used clothing? Maybe vintage. I no longer buy clothing on eBay because of eBay's search engine and my skewed results. And KW spamming has something to do with it too.
I did an informal poll of friends and family when I went to Bonanza and had to rely mostly on Google for buyers to find me. They all told me they went straight to eBay, or Etsy if they wanted vintage, for used clothing. It never occurred to them to Google search for anything used, only new.
ETA: I agree with him about the hack part. My views started dropping immediately after eBay finally came clean and asked members to change their password. They've never really recovered. But after mentioning that 3-4 times on the other forum and hearing crickets, I guess I am alone in that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 15:03:13 GMT
Icahn is nothing more than what used to be called a Corporate Raider. Heads up folks, if you haven't branched out yet, now is the time to start setting your off-eBay stuff up. I completely agree with this. I haven't been paying attention enough to know which way ebay is headed. What if they end up like Amazon where it's hard to break in on certain / all categories? I'm a hobby seller, but I hate the thought of having no where to list items.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 15:04:00 GMT
Ick! This is my first post and my avatar looks like a young alien. hahaha
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Post by mupcycledcouture on Jan 26, 2015 4:00:25 GMT
Elly; I think many agree that the hack was part of the problem. But JD is basically making it sound like the hack was the ONLY problem. And we sellers know that is not true.
The Google problem Ebay caused for itself. By its own arrogance. The hack was not its own fault. Nor was it Target's. Or HD's. However all of their sites have recovered. Because they were honest and admitted what happened and worked to regain the trust of their users. Ebay didnt. They tried to brush it under the rug. Even after people knew they still acted like it was no big deal because no ones financial info was obtained. But their names, addresses and DOB were. That is not a bad thing according to Ebay.
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Post by thekloset on Jan 26, 2015 13:18:28 GMT
I try to keep up with relevant news.
but am I the only person who has never heard of the "enterprise unit" until this month and have no idea WTF is does anyway?
basically, they are selling off the dead wood to be positioned to be more attractive to serious buyers--its just strategizing and not some uncommon thing in the business world...nor is it very meaningful to us lowly sellers-yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 14:50:36 GMT
I'm glad you said that Kloset, I have no clue either!
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Post by mupcycledcouture on Feb 9, 2015 0:54:42 GMT
Ebay Enterprise ties in the big companies with Ebay. Though I have not been able to connect the dots from that to B&M stores actually listing and selling on ebay. It has to do with the warehouses Ebay has and fulfillment. www.ebayenterprise.com/I am wondering if these big stores on Ebay that seem to be fulfilled through a 3rd party vendor are actually Enterprise partners?
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Post by mupcycledcouture on Feb 9, 2015 0:56:27 GMT
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Post by mupcycledcouture on Feb 9, 2015 0:58:16 GMT
Enterprise is how the big boys ended up on Ebay Marketplaces to be our competition. A spin off of that could very well level some of the playing field for us. Maybe.
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