Help with Bob Mackie item (again)? pic heavy

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Picked up this duster.  There may have originally been a dress that went under it, I'm not sure.

Anyway, I'm trying to date it.

I looked on Etsy and that didn't last long because most of the 'vintage' stuff there is from the QVC line. 

I looked on the Bob Mackie site and found that he was doing costumes in the 60's and 70's and started his first ready to wear line in 1982.

bobmackie.com/pages/bobs-bio

As Mackie’s costume design career progressed throughout the 60’s and 70’s, the viability of the Bob Mackie name as a brand became apparent. It seemed only natural that Mackie would take his flair, which had previously been reserved for performers, and transform his designs so that all women could enjoy his creations.

Thus, Mackie began his first ready-to-wear collection in 1982, which was immediately well received by the public and rapidly grew to include other products throughout the 80’s and 90’s including his signature fragrance named “Mackie”, the introduction of the collectible Mackie Barbie® doll program and the launch of the “Wearable Art” program for the QVC television network.

I looked on VFG and they are showing this label as 80's.

vintagefashionguild.org/label-resource/mackie-bob/

The problem is that the union label is the 1963-1974 one. 

Any insight would be very much appreciated. 

[bettyblackbent]

Despite what a few people insist, the Union Labels are not a hard and fast way to date garments, except to show how NEW they cannot be (ie, there can't be a "1963-1983" lable on a 50s garment).
I have seen outdated union labels on items that provably are not as old as the time range for that label.
probably because not everyone bothered to change over to the newest union label at the same time and there's no law that forces them to.

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That's the problem I have, there is so much wrong/misleading info out there that I don't know what is for sure. I don't take the VFG site as gospel either.

I'm inclined to think it is 80's though, because I think the Bob Mackie site is the most reliable I found, and I don't think custom made costume stuff would have that same label as his 80s department store stuff.

The union label threw me because if his ready to wear line didn't start until 1982, it seemed odd that they'd start out with a label that was already 8 years out of date at that time.

I HOPE it's 80s since that seems to be where the following is, but I just want to try to avoid getting it wrong.

[bettyblackbent]

My humble opinion?
80s.

[Shirley U Geste]

I looked on Etsy and that didn't last long because most of the 'vintage' stuff there is from the QVC line.

That always ticks me off because he started his QVC line in 1992.  Nothing vintage about that at all.

Your label would be before that, so 80's is a very good guess.

[bettyblackbent]

he started his QVC line in 1992. Nothing vintage about that at all.

If it's from 1995 or before...it's vintage. 20 year rolling window.