Bonanza Background Burns

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At one time they charged to put your pic through that process. When I was focusing a lot of my time and energies on that site I bought a package. But I had access to the full size processed photos and could use them on eBay as well. I think the package I bought came out to about a nickel a pic and it took seconds. It was worth it to me.

That appears to have changed now that it's free. I decided to move some old listings there (pics taken before I was using a white background), so I used the free burner. After processing, the burned photos are reduced to gallery size. If you click to enlarge, you get the original untouched photo, along with a text bubble saying: Does this picture look different than its small version did? Bonanza's "Background Burner" allows sellers to delete the background of a picture so it's easier for your eye to parse in search results. What you see here is the original picture.

So not only is there no processed full size photo available to the seller, but even when the buyer clicks to see an enlargement of the photo it goes back to the original unprocessed. I logged out and came back just to be sure.  It's a free service now for Bonanza. So OK, I would understand if they wanted to watermark the larger photo so we can't use it elsewhere. But the only reason I used the burner was so the buyer wouldn't see MY background. At all. Doesn't having more professional looking photos improve the site as a whole?

It looks like they're on the same if-it-aint-broke-let's-break-it plan as eBay. Rant over.

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Elly - I tried to use the Bonanza burn program about a month ago. Same thing, I could not copy the photo at the large size, but could see it.    What I did was snip the picture with the computer snipping tool (scissors icon), get the pic onto my desktop, and then copy it. Too much work, so I dropped it.

ETA: the snipped pic also cannot be used in ebay gallery properly  - it has no mouse-over capability to make the larger section pop-out at you.

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I'm currently in the process of importing my Ebay listings to Bonanza. I set up over there years ago, haven't been using it for at least a couple of years and decided to give it a try again. Interesting that you should bring this up, because I was just reading info on their background burner and was looking forward to being able to use the burnt photo on Ebay if I wanted, since it said that as long as the item was listed on Bonanza, I was welcome to take the photo with me. (Just went to look for the exact wording I read this morning, but I can't find it).

Sounds like they just want the photo to catch your eye in search and don't really care about hiding your original background from the buyer. If they reduce the size of the photo, it probably won't work for me for as an Ebay gallery photo. Oh, well.

They still offer an upgrade to several different paid plans, but it seems pricey to me.

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Is this where you read it Terri? burner.bonanza.com/
If you go to the Help section at Bonanza and type in background burner, you don't get any of that information anymore about freely using your burned pics on other sites. 

I went back this AM and checked again as a buyer (not signing in). I thought maybe the burned pic hadn't indexed yet. But I'm still seeing my untouched photo when I click for full size and only a gallery size of the burned image.

I agree that the burned images make search look better, but...
I wonder how many sellers don't bother with it anymore now that they've changed it. I won't. If my picture isn't going to be up to a buyer's standard when they open the listing, then what was the point of bringing them in? It's like a messy house with a beautifully landscaped yard. The yard doesn't change what's inside.

I just don't understand why they changed it*. I was active on the Bonz seller forum when they introduced the burner. Even though the site had started with the online garage sale image that eBay was trying to leaving behind, Bonanza started becoming more and more cookie cutter too. The burner feature as it was explained to us then was to help achieve a cleaner, more professional appearance to the site and to the booths. Drawing in more buyers, helping sellers get better prices, etc., etc.

ETA: *NOW I see why they changed it. Apparently they do still have pay plans burner.bonanza.com/pro. Plans that are MUCH, MUCH more expensive per image than what I paid on Bonanza. So I guess the professional appearance of the site and the booths became secondary to selling the packages to bigger fish.
  

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That's it, elly. I searched background burner through help and couldn't come up with what I'd read either. Glad you found it!

You saved me some time. I won't bother with it if it's not going to work for my Ebay pic, too, especially since I have low expectations for my Bonanza listings, so I don't want to put much time into them. I already have a plain background, it's just not bright white.

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If you buy that pro package, it sounds as if the photos are yours to use wherever. I don't think the Pro Packages are strictly a Bonanza feature. burner.bonanza.com/pro When I went back and looked again, they aren't even terribly expensive. Especially considering the time they save you from doing it yourself. But it's a lot more than what I paid before on a per image cost, so it was a shock at first.

I have a plain background already too. Unfortunately on some older photos it's navy or tan. Now that I've used white for a while I want them all white. And I have a couple of maxi dresses and robes that fell below my background cloth (showing my wall color) and need cleaned up. Maybe I will try the 20 image self review plan for those.

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I use an app that cost .99 on my phone to wipe the backgrounds. Takes some practice but Im always getting complimented on my photos now when I sell (not on ebay of course)
The app is called background eraser if anyones interested.

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I have Photoshop CS3 and I've tried their background eraser a few times but each time I've been too impatient to master it. I blow my photos up so big so I can get a clean edge that it takes me forever to do it. But I had a couple of photos I had to have fix - the maxi dress I mentioned. I would say it took me over 30 minutes (but probably less than an hour) to do 2 photos. I only cleaned one full length photo of the front and one full length photo of the back. The rest I cropped to show bodice, waistline, etc. But I did sell the dress a day or two after I listed it.

It does have a different look from just using a white background, but I'm not sure that I really prefer it. If I want to move forward with the burned look though I need a lot more practice in order for it be cost effective for me to do it myself versus paying to have it done immediately.