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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 0:20:37 GMT
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Post by kritter on Jul 31, 2019 1:00:16 GMT
Only for high-volume products so for the big sellers that they cater too.
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Post by kat on Jul 31, 2019 1:29:46 GMT
When this was announced at Open there were flashing lights as it hit the screen. There were a lot of “huh? Wha?” And confused faces in the audience from those of us that are not the kind of sellers that will use it. There is a lot of benefits for those that can use it, but I don’t think it deserved the “big reveal” dramatics.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 1:53:51 GMT
Only for high-volume products so for the big sellers that they cater too.
Unless they believe there are a number of large volume sellers using strictly FBA without storage space of their own, I’m confused on how this is beneficial to eBay. Currently, you have sellers with their own resources and absorbing the costs of said resources (rent, utilities, labor, packaging). I don’t see how this wouldn’t simply result in an increased product cost. |
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Post by kat on Jul 31, 2019 1:55:51 GMT
eBay will be using existing fulfillment centers that many of these sellers are already using.
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Post by Pantlandia on Jul 31, 2019 4:37:18 GMT
I would think that any big time sellers that are on eBay are probably on Amazon and have their stuff stored there already.
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Post by chapeaunoir on Jul 31, 2019 5:09:09 GMT
I would think that any big time sellers that are on eBay are probably on Amazon and have their stuff stored there already. That's what I think - eBay is generally just a drop shipping destination to a lot of those really big sellers. I think eBay would like to persuade them over to FBE, though (that might be an attempted solution to the dropshipping problem as well as eBay trying to be just like big brother) with some exclusivity. If they offer a good enough situation, they may be able to lure some of the non-intergalactic sellers who are NOT paired with Amazon already to exclusive FBE with eBay. It doesn't affect me but I'm curious as to how it works out. If they use existing logistics it's better. |
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Post by val2525 on Jul 31, 2019 17:42:12 GMT
I can't blame eBay for copying AMZ on this one. Many of the mega sellers sell on both platforms, so offering them this service on eBay makes sense. I do wonder though how well eBay has thought it out. AMZ actually admitted recently it took more time, effort and cost to get things set up to offer the same day delivery than was originally expected.
What saddens me is I used to work for a company that was setting itself up to do same day deliveries for major retailers - back in the late 90s. They already had a huge business as a overnight delivery reseller and this would have been the perfect add-on service for their franchisees (they had franchisees in 48 states and most major cities). One of the network morning shows had someone in an apartment in one of the major cities who lived a month having everything delivered. It was a big deal at the time. My company provided the delivery service. They got a huge amount of press from it. It was a great idea, actually ahead of its time, but quite workable. Sadly, they got caught up in visions of huge $$$ from an IPO and blew the whole thing. If they'd built the biz like they did the reseller franchise, they'd have made a killing in the long run and changed buying habits. The biz was owned by 2 guys, one in TX and one in CA. They were friends with Mark Cuban at the time, and I think they got wrapped up in the whole IPO thing and had visions of fast and easy $.
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Post by kat on Jul 31, 2019 18:17:10 GMT
The goal is to get packages to their buyers in three days or less. The sellers that are already using these fulfillment centers to meed that expectation will benefit from lower shipping rates eBay has negotiated, eBay branded shipping, protection from eBay for items shipped through them. They will be protected from defects and bad feedback as long as they are meeting their performance requirements.
Sellers that use AZ Multi-Channel Fulfillment end up with eBay customers mad that their eBay purchase arrived in an Amazon box and think the seller is a dropshipper and feel "scammed". It might be just a tiny thing in the overall picture of getting people to trust that eBay is a safe place to shop, but it can't hurt. It’s not a service I'll be using, but if it helps line the eBay pockets without us small sellers subsidizing it, I'm all for it.
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Post by chapeaunoir on Jul 31, 2019 18:37:39 GMT
^^ This. If they can get some of these huge Amazon sellers to ship through eBay rather than Amazon, it may solve that PR problem, as well.
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Post by val2525 on Jul 31, 2019 18:40:32 GMT
Sellers that use AZ Multi-Channel Fulfillment end up with eBay customers mad that their eBay purchase arrived in an Amazon box and think the seller is a dropshipper and feel "scammed". It might be just a tiny thing in the overall picture of getting people to trust that eBay is a safe place to shop, but it can't hurt. I'ts not a service I'll be using, but if it helps line the eBay pockets without us small sellers subsidizing it, I'm all for it. I tried explaining this to the sellers in my local group who sell on both platforms. They didn't believe me about the buyers. Next time I mentioned it, I showed them FB left by eBay buyers who received an AMZ box and felt betrayed/cheated/scammed/etc. I suggested those sellers send an email after the sale alerting the buyer that they (seller) sell on both sites and it would be possible the item would be pulled from their AMZ stored inventory. As a buyer, I know I'd appreciate the heads up. I know NOW that an AMZ box doesn't mean the seller is dropshippping from AMZ, but I didn't until I started talking to these local sellers. If FBE means buyers will get their stuff in eBay boxes and not AMZ, it works for me. Anything that keeps buyers ON eBay and returning to eBay, benefits ALL eBay sellers, IMO. |
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Post by chapeaunoir on Jul 31, 2019 18:44:23 GMT
It's certainly mentioned enough of the forums that I suspect it bothers more people than one may think. There are also more people who dislike Amazon and won't shop there, and shop eBay instead and feel frustrated when their stuff comes from Bozo's Empire instead. I had the same thing happen several times when I purchased commodities on eBay - I scratched my head, but now just get them on Amazon and skip eBay altogether as, in these cases, the seller also tacked on some kind of surcharge.
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Post by somany on Aug 1, 2019 13:30:40 GMT
3 day delivery is not really much of an enticement these days, especially considering the expense it will incur. My daughter had something delivered from Meijer’s in 1 1/2 hours when I was there this week. I certainly hope fees don’t go up for everyone to cover the cost of this.
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Post by chapeaunoir on Aug 1, 2019 17:29:41 GMT
This whole delivery thing is getting ridiculous. We're straining an already strained infrastructure (our roads and air) just to get people's people's mostly undeeded widgets to them a day faster. If they want it so fast, surcharge it.
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Post by val2525 on Aug 1, 2019 18:41:50 GMT
3 day delivery is not really much of an enticement these days, especially considering the expense it will incur. My daughter had something delivered from Meijer’s in 1 1/2 hours when I was there this week. I certainly hope fees don’t go up for everyone to cover the cost of this. Deliveries from grocery stores are a different situation. Instacart and a few other companies have the infrastructure in place and grocery shoppers expect a fast delivery. You're comparing apples to oranges. IMO, a 3 day delivery would be great for online purchases. I've ordered quite a bit online over the past 5 months, and only ONE order arrived in less than a week (3 days). Most took an average of 8 days to arrive (from payment to arrival). A few took close to 2 weeks. The exception were my eBay orders. All arrived in 4 days or less from purchase except one cookbook that was advertised FC but mailed Media. |
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Post by kat on Aug 1, 2019 19:35:55 GMT
What I understand by putting the "within 3 days" as a selling point for Managed Shipments is that having inventory across the country would allow for this at the lowest price possible. A few times the eBay Podcast has had guests on that talked about their growth and explained the savings just on shipping rates they had by having their inventory on both coasts and in the middle of the country.
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Post by val2525 on Aug 1, 2019 19:43:48 GMT
What I understand by putting the "within 3 days" as a selling point for Managed Shipments is that having inventory across the country would allow for this at the lowest price possible. A few times the eBay Podcast has had guests on that talked about their growth and explained the savings just on shipping rates they had by having their inventory on both coasts and in the middle of the country. Makes sense. Many B&M retailers do the same thing. I wonder though, if eBay can get the same awesome shipping rates that AMZ has? |
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Post by somany on Aug 1, 2019 20:14:38 GMT
val2525 Shipt delivers from Meijer and Target, which carry quite a large variety of stuff. The main thing my daughter ordered was a new charger for a computer game console. If ebay is concentrating on the large sellers, I would imagine much of their stuff is going to be things you can get in those stores. I'm just saying that if consumers get used to a 2 hour turn around, 3 days is not going to be that big of a draw. Getting the shipping cost down makes more sense to me as a good reason for doing it though.
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Post by val2525 on Aug 1, 2019 20:46:24 GMT
You're referring to same day deliveries from local stores, and most likely in a major metro area. That's a different delivery infrastructure than deliveries of larger items from non-local sellers. A 1, 2 or 3 day delivery (depending on where one lives) IS a quick delivery time in those instances. I live in a huge metro right now and can get same day delivery. Easy peasy. Other places I've lived in weren't as large and didn't have same day delivery, in some cases not even for groceries. In those places, I'd have been very happy to get a guaranteed 2 or 3 day delivery window.
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Post by chapeaunoir on Aug 2, 2019 1:31:23 GMT
Groceries and drug store items have a long history of being quickly delivered - I recall our local drugstore delivering to our house within hours even when I was a kid, and my dad remembered it when he was a kid back in the 30s, but it's very local and generally when people have an account. Trying to expand that model nationwide has cost Amazon billions.
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