The truth about PETA?

[val2525]

Since we're discussing a good animal rescue group in the kitten Olympics thread, I wanted to post some things I found out about PETA that surprised me. Well, it shouldn't have surprised me since I don't condone their methods.


www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/peta-euthanasia-shelter-animals_us_55fc17d7e4b00310edf6a608

www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/05/pets-shelter-euthanization-rate_n_6612490.html

www.dogster.com/lifestyle/commentary-peta-should-stop-all-its-dealings-with-dogs-and-cats

star.txstate.edu/2016/03/29/peta-is-a-hate-group-in-disguise/

I didn't know they had a "shelter", or that their pet death #s were so high.

[Shirley U Geste]

I am no PETA fan, but I never go by just the kill rate.

Those numbers are far too easy to manipulate. Look at the shelter where Kritter is that is TNR and puts tiny just spayed cats, elderly cats, declawed cats, etc back out on the streets where they have NO chance at all for survival. Yet they can use their numbers to reduce their kill rate, cause they don't kill them in house. So they get touted as having a low kill rate, which makes me totally livid.

[kritter]

Right, Shirley, it totally skews the facts but what is worse is that it is so cruel to the cats that are suffering just so the numbers look good.

They brag about their no kill numbers for cats but their dog no kill rate is high because they can't just dump dogs/puppies back on the street next to a dumpster and be on their way like they can for the cats/kittens.

Their dog/puppy euthanasia rates are still as high as ever.

[Shirley U Geste]

It is total cruelty.

I hate euthanasia, but at least it is a quick death and not the total horror those poor cats face when they die from starvation/dehydration or even worse being being torn apart by animals that are street savvy already and don't want them in their territory.

[val2525]

From what I'm reading, PETA even kills adopable animals and doesn't give those animals time to be adopted.

I understand killing non-adoptable viscious animals.

[kritter]

Val, there are so many many adoptable animals out there needing a place in shelters. There is just not room for them all to have a place until they are adopted.

My city has promoted spay/neuter for years and years and still there are too many adoptable animals trying to find a place. Even with free spay/neuters, the culture of the citizens has to change from the belief that animals are disposable.

When a kitten/puppy grows up, toss him outside and get another kitten/puppy. When a kitten or puppy scratches a kid because the animal fought back, toss the animal outside and get another one. When the owner gets a new girlfriend/boyfriend and the new love is allergic to cats or doesn't like dogs, pitch the animals outside or dump them at a shelter. All adoptable animals that have been in homes but now they either die on the streets or are picked up and taken to shelters.

There is not enough room for any shelter to keep all animals forever until they get adopted. What happens to the ones they have to turn down when there is no room?

Our city shelter doesn't have the option to turn any animals away. The shelter only has so much room and when all those cages are filled, something has to give.

After working at a shelter and being on the inside with animal rescue, I totally support euthanasia over the alternative that we seem to have going on at the city shelter here with Live Release.

All the small kittens/puppies that are turned into the city shelter that are totally adoptable but there is no space for them, no cages available. Beautiful little kittens/puppies/adult cats and dogs with no chance because there is not enough room. That situation is everywhere not just in my backyard. I would much rather those little ones go peacefully then be subjected to the horrors of the street because there are not enough adopters to take them.

There will never be enough time for them all. There will never be enough space for them all.

I don't know much about a lot of things but this is one area that I feel Soap Box qualified.

That being said, I am getting off of it for now and skeering the fur off the Missy family with the vacuum cleaner.

[val2525]

I'm not saying PETA shelter should be no kill. I, too, understand the need for euthanasia. But they're basically a kill no questions asked operation. I'm surprised you guys are supporting them.

I don't trust a damn thing PETA does.

[Shirley U Geste]

Oh I don't support PETA at all. It's just that in the total picture of things they are far from the worst out there, which is pretty darn pathetic and totally depresses me.

I can't go to the shelters anymore, if I did there would be 100 cats in my house because it breaks my heart to see them and know their fate.

[Deleted]

I don't like Peta either. I think it's a like a lot of "help" organizations, it probably started out with the best of intentions but like most things that grow into big organizations money, greed and power changed things along the way. I don't agree with how they run their shelters or how they do a lot of stuff but have no issues with euthanizing animals at shelters. No kills just aren't practical in the long run. We have a no kill here and adoptions are so low because most of the dogs are unadoptable due to behavior that they can rarely take anything. So if you stumble upon a litter of puppies or kittens don't call the shelter they will just tell you they are too full to take them. Only time they intake and animal is if the police take one by then they don't have a choice. But they have fundraisers constantly which annoys the heck out of me and no I won't support them, because they aren't helping the community by keeping pens full of mean old dogs and taking a couple here and there to adopt out.

I also agree there are shelters worse than those that put too many down. Like the ones that alter breeds and temperament cards to adopt dangerous animals. It happens more than you think. They pull red tag unadoptable animals like an aggressive pit, retag it as a lab mix that's great with kids and slap it on the adoption floor. I remember a guy that was attacked the first day he brought a dog home from the shelter last year because of that exact problem, it was the 3rd time it happened at that shelter and it's not the only no kill shelter that's been caught doing it to increase adoption rates. They can't put the animals down so they haven't to figure out some way to get rid of them.

[val2525]

Animal humane here does that - mistags animals. Friend of mine picked up a dog that was supposedly sociaized and good with cats. She finally admitted defeat and turned the dog back in when it a) almost attacked her BIL and b) attacked and killed one of her cats.

She found out later the dog had not been socialized, did not like the cats at the shelter, and in fact had been picked up off the streets, bathed and presented as 'friendly'.

Which is now why I adopt from foster groups instead of shelters.

A friend of mine runs a foster group, they go to the kill shelter in their county and take home the adoptable animals and find homes for them. My friend above? Her first dog is from this lady and he's awesome. Biggest love bug you'll ever meet, all 90+ lbs of him.

[Deleted]

Fortunately our shelter here seems pretty good about assessing animals and telling you what they know about behavior. You also have a week to return/exchange the animal if you get it home and find it is not what they described or doesn't get along with the other animals in the home. It comes at price though, animals adoption is between $90 - $125 depending on the animals age.

I don't have much respect for PETA. Too many questionable practices and problems with the orginization.