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Post by unknown on Sept 11, 2015 14:05:39 GMT
$600 year. And social security is something like 15,000/year.
I have been on the net since the late 80s and got an education on it very early. Unless you have specific personal information about me, you cannot find me on the net. It's not 'already out there'. And I've had a 'potential stalker' who demanded picking up something at my home in person which is a no way in hail gonna happen. It was someone in town and one reason why I never put in my zip code or city. My choice would be 'left coast' just as it was. That's enough to estimate how long something would take to get somewhere. There's no other reason for a bidder to need that info.
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Post by unknown on Sept 11, 2015 14:12:16 GMT
IMO, if one is a single female living alone, one should look at using a PO Box or mailing address even if one is not a business nor self-employed. Why give that info out to anyone? And yes, I'm single, I live alone, and I have used a separate mailing address in the past and will do so again. There's no PO nearby enough, no 'mailing place', nuttin like that near me, nor do I even have spare money to do rent something like that for no reason. I don't have cable TV. Don't have a smartphone. Didn't have a car for 3 years. Don't have high speed internet. If I had extra money, THAT's where it would go so I wouldn't have to stop any bloated picture loading on websites. This is my personal information. I should be the only one who has the right to give my personal information out to someone I have no connection with. A bidder - no, that's no connection. A buyer, that's another story. |
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Post by unknown on Sept 11, 2015 14:13:16 GMT
Just a quickie in general apology to everyone for my 'outburst' yesterday but between the heat and the topic, totally pushed buttons with me.
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Post by unknown on Sept 11, 2015 14:23:59 GMT
I respect your opinion. Once you sell something for profit it is a business no matter how small You mention garage sale - I've never even had a 'garage' nor have I had a garage sale or yard sale or apartment sale or whatever. Never. But if I did and I made $20 selling household crap, I should file tax returns cause I'm a business? I don't have a store now, and rarely did in the past and never did a mailing list thing and have actually removed any 'followers' or subscribers or whatever they used to be called. But I do understand the can spam act and the repercussions. That chick on auctionbytes is wrong yammering about wanting privacy when sending store spam. My HUGE objection is - a bid is not a transaction. I don't have a problem with my info out to a buyer, but a bid is not a purchase. I never complained about having to have my address on packages. Where it crosses the line is when there is no transaction. And yet nobody but me said anything about our inability to see what some potential buyer bought in the recent past because of 'privacy' concerns that ebay has. WTF kinda of concerns is that? The vast majority of freaking user IDs have nothing to do with a person's name. You can't track that back beyond joemontana1958 bought a yellow lacy nightgown. Is that so he doesn't get blackmailed? ebay needs to get an education in privacy. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2015 17:18:04 GMT
Unknown, if the income is under the limits you don't have to file for it. But, the Federal Law requires that email advertisements contain your registered address. No one, least of all Ebay is going to make an exception, break the law, and not include your address because of your personal concerns. Again, you have the option to back out. And, your user agreement says they will supply the address to any bidder so you also have the option to not accept that and refuse to sell under those terms. I am not meaning to be crude about it, but it is a business to eBay and to many other sellers who also might not want their info out there, but they do so to make a living while complying with the law. There is no "gray area". You sell it, its not a personal transaction, its business. You advertise it for sale, its business, etc. This is covered under the CAN-SPAM act and it pertains to all of us whether we sell 1 item and email about it or 1,000. It isn't my law so don't shoot the messenger LOL  Here is a summary of it and point number "4" is why we have absolutely no say it in nor does eBay. They say you can't fight City Hall, well this is even worse, its the FTC. When you do a MM sale there is even a warning at the bottom that your registered address will be included, giving you yet another chance to not click on through and send it out. www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business |
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Post by unknown on Sept 12, 2015 8:41:49 GMT
Unknown, if the income is under the limits you don't have to file for it. But, the Federal Law requires that email advertisements contain your registered address. I'm totally lost with you coming down on me with this. Didn't you read my post #33, right before this reply of yours? That's where I brought up the canspam act and having to include addresses in spam. And that the person on auctionbytes was wrong. And that's fine. The canspam act is a good thing. I never said it wasn't. But I don't spam, don't send email 'marketing', don't have a store, don't use markdown manager, don't allow anyone to 'follow me', don't have 'subscribers', don't do a mailing list kinda thing, NUTTIN My objections is - a BID is not a transaction. Unless someone has bought an item, my private info stays private. |
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Post by unknown on Sept 12, 2015 10:37:03 GMT
Until 5/15/15 this was ebay's privacy policy as far as other users goes:
People you authorize us to provide it to
eBay users as authorized by you or your use of our Services (e.g. if you buy an item the seller may view your email address and request and obtain your contact information, including phone number or email and postal address to help complete the transaction)
And this is what was put there on 5/15/15. So far I cannot find any notification of change
Other eBay users as authorized by you or your use of our Services.
When transacting with another user, the other user may request and we may provide him/her with information about you necessary to complete the transaction, such as your name, account ID, email address, contact details, shipping and billing address, or other information from you needed to promote the reliability and security of the transaction.[/b] If a transaction is held, fails, or is later invalidated, we may also provide the other user with details of the unsuccessful transaction. The other user receiving your information is not allowed to use this information for purposes unrelated to the transaction, such as to contact you for marketing purposes, unless you have express consented to it. Contacting users with unwanted or threatening messages is a violation of our User Agreement.[/i]
When the hail did it become 'necessary' to give out our private information to complete the transaction if the person has only bid on an item? HUH?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2015 14:23:07 GMT
I'm sorry Unknown, I don't want you to think I am coming down on you. I just replied because you are quoting me and saying that you disagree.
It is covered by the same law. They bid on a public advertisement, your listing. They are entitled to it. Unfortunately, even if it becomes invalid or unsuccessful as they say, it still qualified at the time of the bid because there is no way to tell ahead of time that they will back out.
I do agree that it isn't really necessary for them to have anything unless they win the auction. It may have to be available due to people receiving a confirmation email that they bid. That probably puts in into the area of the CAN-Spam act (email). Ebay's legal team may be making sure they are covered since they get sued for just about everything.
Either way, I'm not coming down on you at all, just replying when you quoted my posts. I understand your concerns and if it were me I might be a little concerned as well. I probably would not do auctions and only BIN or something.
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Post by unknown on Sept 12, 2015 14:33:05 GMT
Nope. Actually, US law is stronger about keeping people's privacy.
A bid on an auction is NOT a transaction. And that wording was SPECIFICALLY changed in May - with nothing in the notice they sent out about it. They only mentioned some changes because of paypal/ebay split. That has nothing to do with the split.
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Post by chapeaunoir on Sept 16, 2015 0:59:19 GMT
Say I made $300 this year - no taxes, nuttin.I thought we had to file taxes for all money? Schedule C Even if it were only $300? I get that you don't want the information out there and that you're "not a business", you're an individual seller. I think there is so much information already out there on the internet. And someone pointed out the whole yard sale, etc aspect. I guess it just doesn't bother me. I *think* the threshold for casual sales is around $600 for the year. It may have changed but it was my understanding that if you basically just made pocket change you didn't have to declare it. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that so many people make money with yard sales and the like, and the bookkeeping for all of that would be onerous and not really beneficial. Most people sell off their old stuff at a loss so it's a wash. At least that has been my understanding. Val will know. ETA: Oh crud - I missed the second page on this. Just ignore me lol. |
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